And yet… he STILL doesn’t get it.
From: Pathetic Guy
Date: August 2, 2011 3:37:38 PM EDT
I know you don’t want to talk, but thought you may be interestd in this event.
Announcing a new Meetup!
I wanted to do that…Just not alone!!
Let’s spend the day at Governor’s Island
When: Saturday, August 27, 201112:30 PM
Where:Governor’s Island Ferry Terminal10 South
Yeah… I think I’ll be passing on that one. I do love Governor’s Island, but how much do I want to bet that he’ll be there waiting for me? Psycho….
After working through my anger, this was the response I came up with, like an actual adult.
From: Me
Date: July 26, 2011 12:12 AM EDT
To: Pathetic Guy
Subject: And done.
Pathetic Guy, it’s really a shame that we couldn’t manage to be friends. I’ve apologized for our date more than I should have, in my opinion. That’s what dating is, dinner, conversation, flirting, kissing - we try people on to see if they fit. But we did not fit. And I was disappointed that there wasn’t more between us too, which I expressed to you. This is exactly why I told you my feelings honestly and didn’t go out with you again. And thank goodness, because if you’re having this much trouble getting over one date, I can’t imagine you getter over more than that. However, you have not been able to let that one date go. You have made it your mission to, what I can only assume is, to try to either make me feel bad, guilt me into being with you, or me admitting something that would be a lie. Honestly, I haven’t exactly figured out what your motivation is to constantly bringing it up and making it an issue after we’ve discussed it at length. But it’s not my issue, it’s yours. And you need to figure it out on your own and without me.
And quite unfortunately, it’s cost us any friendship we may have had. Which is unfortunate. After today’s emails, I can’t understand why you would have emailed me to begin with, if it wasn’t to start a fight, or to bring up your hurt feelings. It was also very petty and small of you to bring up what our dinner cost and the fact that we kissed 20+ times, which was a grand exaggeration on your part. And there was no motivation for any of that except that you wanted me to feel bad or guilty. Which I don’t, and never intend to. I have done nothing but conduct myself with decorum and tact, to hopefully preserve whatever kind of friendship we could have had. However, after the amount of emails regarding this subject, I have more than enough cause not to. But I have no interest in bringing myself down to your level. I feel that I was honest and apologetic, but that’s just not enough for you. I’ve said it may times, but I don’t know what you want me to say. And honestly, I don’t care any more. I wish you a lot of luck with your life. Please do not contact me anymore.
You know, I felt really bad about telling you that we had no chemistry because I really liked who you were as a person. And you just couldn’t be a man and let it go! I’ve been trying to be really nice about all of this because I didn’t want to hurt you anymore than I had to. But now, all of my feelings have been confirmed by your petty, immature, and desperate actions. So you want it, here it is! This is exactly why I had NO chemistry with you:
- You’re clearly petty and desperate - which is why you keep bringing this shit up
- You spit when you talk
- You also have yellow buck teeth - I would spend a little less money on traveling a little more money on that
- You fist your fork like a 4 year old that just learned to hold a utensil
- You kept interrupting me and telling corny jokes which made it difficult to hold a conversation, and they were juvenile and unrelated to what I was talking about
- You kept bringing up old jokes that weren’t even funny any more
- You didn’t eat or drink all night - weird
- You chew on your hand - disgusting
- You kept caressing my cheek while I was eating and having a conversation with you, which was creepy
- You threw our leftovers into the sidewalk rather than looking for a trash can
- You picked a time to kiss me where there was no intimate moment, it was like you were just doing it to do it
AND honestly, I was willing to let all of that go and chalk all of that up to nerves on your part, but this was the kicker…
- And last but not least, you’re a TERRIBLE kisser - you kept mashing you teeth into me and your tongue was like a limp fish in my mouth. It was like kissing someone who had never kissed before. And if you’re a bad kisser, then I can just imagine all the other things your bad at.
- And 20 - 30 times - a HUGE exaggeration. It was about 5 times. And YOU kissed me. And after the first couple of times, I kept pulling away from you, but you were holding onto my face with a death grip. Even when I tried to give you some physical hints about kissing, you were all about what YOU were doing and not paying any attention to me or my body language.
So ya know what, it’s not them it is YOU!
Just when I thought I’d never hear from Pathetic Guy again, he came in like a hurricane… rain, wind, and then the storm! I’m always saying that I attract crazy people, but I don’t think people actually understand what I’m talking about. It’s not that we don’t get along, or that he has quirks, they are REALLY NUTS! Let the crazy begin…
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From: Pathetic Guy
Date: July 25, 2011 11:37 AM
Went speed-dating with a friend yesterday and he got 2 matches, while I got none :(
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From: Me
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 3:26 PM
Awe, I’m sorry. When I lived in GA I used to host speed dating events. They were fun, but I know some people would get pretty disappointed with not having any matches. Try not to take it too personally, I mean, it’s only a couple minutes with each person. As long as you had fun, that’s all that matters.
How have you been otherwise?
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From: Pathetic Guy
Date: July 25, 2011 3:27 PM
I am taking it personally and it certainly was not fun.
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From: Me
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 3:35 PM
I’m sorry about that. I guess it’s hard not to take it personally. You didn’t have any fun at the event?
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From: Pathetic Guy
Date: July 25, 2011 3:36 PM
No, I looked all nice with a haircut, had nice clothing, mentioned my travels-obviously didn’t matter and that bothers me. Makes me not want to date.
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From the peanut gallery: Yeah, it’s going to take more than a haircut and nice clothing.
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From: Me
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 3:45 PM
It was one event. Don’t take too much stock in it. You’ll find a nice girl, just enjoy yourself and relax.
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From: Pathetic Guy
Date: July 25, 2011 3:45 PM
Easier for you to say, it’s not just one event though.
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From: Me
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 3:48 PM
I’m not so sure it’s easier for me to say. I understand being disappointed. It sucks. Maybe you’re over thinking it. Maybe just have fun, go do new things, not worry about it, and you’ll meet someone the old fashioned way.
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From: Pathetic Guy
Date: July 25, 2011 3:48 PM
I’m not overthinking it-I’m pretty confident that women will like me and surprised when they don’t.
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From the peanut gallery: Life must be pretty surprising for him all the time.
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From: Me
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 3:51 PM
Well, I don’t know what to tell you. I’ve run through my supportive speeches and pep talks for being disappointed with dating. These are also things I tell myself too, when I feel crummy about not meeting people. What do you think the problem is?
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From the peanut gallery: I have an extensive list of what the problem is, but that’s neither here nor there.
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From: Pathetic Guy
Date: July 25, 2011 3:51 PM
If I knew what the problem was I’d change it-apparently women don’t feel that wonderful spark with me, that they do with others or they’re too picky. Either way, I feel like it’s all games.
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From the peanut gallery: Oh, games. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard this excuse from guys about why women don’t like them. It’s usually from men that can’t take a good hard look at themselves! This is NO exception. The only games these women are playing are with other people and not him.
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From: Me
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 3:55 PM
Maybe. Or maybe you just haven’t met the right one yet. It only takes one. She’s gotta be out there somewhere.
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From: Pathetic Guy
Date: July 25, 2011 3:58 PM
I don’t believe in the right one. I think there’s more than one woman out there. Perhaps it’s the height factor or my stomach or that I didn’t mention the ice cube.
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From the peanut gallery: The “Ice Cube” is some sexual technique that he alluded to me on the phone. After kissing him, I sincerely hope the “Ice Cube” technique is something that’s put in some very strong drinks.
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From: Me
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 4:19 PM
:) Don’t worry too much about it. All you can do is be happy with you. You can’t control what other people do, say, think, or feel. I do believe that you will find a nice girl, even if it’s the “one” for now. It’s going to happen at the right time.
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From: Pathetic Guy
Date: July 25, 2011 4:19: PM
It’s much more difficult than I thought and I don’t get it cause I know I can be a great boyfriend.
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From: Me
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 4:24 PM
I don’t think anyone is questioning whether or not you’d make a good boyfriend. I think it’s about chemistry. That’s not something that one can choose.
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From: Pathetic Guy
Date: July 25, 2011 5:27 PM
I think you make it more complicated than it is. BTW you don’t even want to know what the bill was for Fatty Crab. Too much for a 1st date,
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From the peanut gallery: First off, how was I making that more complicated exactly? And second, Oh, hell no! You did not just bring that up! Guess who hasn’t “moved past it.”
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From: Me
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 5:38 PM
What would you like me to say about our date, Pathetic Guy? I don’t know what to say anymore. You’re clearly angry with me. If you don’t like what I have to say, then don’t email me about it. I was just trying to be positive with you. And I think you’re just trying to pick a fight with me.
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From: Pathetic Guy
Date: July 25, 2011 5:40 PM
The bill was $149, you don’t think that’s a bit much for a 1st date?
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From the peanut gallery: Um, if you wanted the dinner bill to be less, you shouldn’t have ordered the most expensive things on the menu. And welcome to NYC mother fucker.
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From: Me
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 5:51 PM
I thanked you for dinner numerous times, and I’m still appreciative. It was date, and I realize that dating can be expensive. You could have suggested a different place for dinner if the prices were too expensive, I would have understood.
But I’m really not sure what your motivation for bringing it up is except to make me feel bad. So I’m not really sure what you want me to say.
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From: Pathetic Guy
Date: July 25, 2011 5:54 PM
Not trying to make you feel bad, but there’s no way I could have known the restaurant would cost that much. You still led me on despite what you say, you kissed me 20-30x, not once or twice plus what about the things you said before we met about thinking of me se*lly, that bothers me most.
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From the peanut gallery: LMAO. 20 - 30 times?? Maybe he’s thinking that our date was all of the dates he’s ever been on. Um, yeah, we weren’t out THAT long. And if we had kissed that many times I’d have been in traction since I was constantly avoiding his kiss. He had a death grip on me - my neck was actually sore the next day.
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From: Me
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:04 PM
Pathetic Guy, it was one date. You need to get over it. I’ve already apologized numerous times for hurting your feelings and making you feel led on and I’m not discussing it anymore. I really did want to be friends with you, but I don’t think you’re capable of being able to do that.
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From: Me
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:06 PM
Oh, and the prices are on the website that I sent you. So, yes, you did know.
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From: Pathetic Guy
Date: July 25, 2011 6:06 PM
Yes it was one date but you shouldn’t have kissed me that much when you knew there was no chemistry. I’d never, never, never do that. You know you shouldn’t have done that. And all the things you said prior to the date, should not have been said.
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From the peanut gallery: Um, besides talking about my life and who I am, I’m not really sure what I should have left out in our previous conversations. I guess I was being too honest? my self? a real person? Or maybe I was just “playing games” by being a real person.
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From: Pathetic Guy
Date: July 25, 2011 6:07 PM
There was no way I would envision a date costing that much. No 1st date should cost anywhere near that.
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From the peanut gallery: You’re a senior accountant, asshole, do some math!
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From: Me
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:12 PM
Pathetic Guy, let it go.
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From: Pathetic Guy
Date: July 25, 2011 6:15 PM
I would but there’s nothing that gets me more upset than being led on. Even after the restaurant we kissed plenty-that was not cool on your part.
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From the peanut gallery: Clearly he was on a better date than I was.
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From: Me
Date: July 25, 2011 6:21 PM
So how many times should I apologize? 5 times, 50 times, a 100 times?? What’s gonna be the trick here, Pathetic Guy? I already told you I was sorry and I explained why - and I meant every word. What the fuck do you want me to say??